More on the recent 'no sun-link' study
From Steve Milloy, Junk Science.com chipping in logic and reason to the recent study (see previous postings):
You have to admire their tenacity, if nothing else. If they want to talk about "half-baked notions" and "somehow caus[ing] an indirect forcing not included in measurements" then why go past their perennial favorite? The whole CO2-driven enhanced greenhouse hypothesis perches precariously on a yet to be observed positive feedback of massive water vapor greenhouse effect being triggered by the insignificant possible carbon dioxide greenhouse effect.
Even the most dedicated AGW promoters admit that greenhouse effect from increasing trace GHGs is logarithmic and that roughly three-fourths of the effect of doubling atmospheric CO2 has already occurred and that even if all estimated warming since the Industrial Revolution has been due to enhanced greenhouse (absurd, but never mind) then net warming is something less than three-fourths of one kelvin. This is why aerosol cooling is proposed as masking otherwise expected warming (despite no such observation being made nor experimental evidence that this is even possible in the real world).
So, the warmers' position is that unobserved water vapor greenhouse enhancement is occurring and that unobserved aerosol cooling is hiding it in the atmosphere (or alternately the oceans are storing it to spring upon us in some sudden, malevolent surprise). From this position they claim experimentally demonstrated solar/GCR/cloud enhancement mechanisms are "half-baked".
Ed. And I reiterate, what then is warming the other planets and melting the Mars ice -cap in our solar system?
Peter C Glover
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What's warming Mars? The planet has had massive planet darkening storms over the last 30 years that reduce the planet's albedo (reflectivity) which has a warming effect.
As for the other planets, only several out of the 100+ bodies in the solar system are warming - all of which are explainable (except Pluto which is still an enigma to astronomers). If you're so convinced that a brightening sun is causing warming, despite the evidence to the contrary, how do you explain the 90+ bodies that aren't warming?